@starbreaker at some point yes, though that depends on whether we'll find a reliable distributor. In Europe / Middle East and South-East Asia, we've got people on the ground, so everything will be a lot easier - for both us, and everyone that wants to support us :)

... and subscribe to our newsletter; we need all the mental support, we can get: pantherx.org/#subscribe. I promise, I'll send out the first, soon! That's it ;) - Good night!

Since I'm already here: GNU Guix 1.0.0 is out. A Linux, like no other; Check it out - You Must!: gnu.org/software/guix/blog/201

Thanks to a kind fellow, who (apparently) found what we do, kind of interesting, we've now got traffic flooding in from Hackernews: news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1

@xj9 @aral user friendly, safest shit? I'm curious either way!

@vfrmedia @albert @ASIC @noorul @aral @chidgey it's called Monopoly. We've all played it, when we were young - It's especially popular among politicians and wealthy people.

@ASIC @aral @noorul In any dictatorship, if a debate is not desired, or opposes the dictators views, it's simply shut-off. I'm sad to find, that even Mastodon, creeps with people, that simply aren't ready to have a debate. Cheers Aral

@aral so instead of hailing a $1200 device as more secure (which by the way, some 25% of the world population cannot afford in a lifetime); we should instead raise awareness of howto better protect yourself; or at least, be more aware what happens with your data - and maybe, not to trust your phone to keep it "safe" for you.

So yeah, maybe for an API, you can create a "thread model"; but with our phones, this is a completely different issue.

@aral spoken like a true politician, with a matching, completely unrelated comparison, that's supposed to conclude the argument.

What threads do we (our phones) face? Physical theft; digital theft? Have you ever considered that over 50% of the world population, live under oppressive governments, that have all resources, to access your phone?

Not to mention that most of these tools, find their way online - so even if I can't access your stuff today, I'll likely tomorrow.

@ASIC @chidgey @aral @noorul you're right; most couldn't be bothered. Even those shocked at first, usually soon forget - dismiss. This is, until it has affected them personally, in a significant way.

@aral @ASIC @noorul thread model, marshmallow butter. The west really loves buzzwords. We're all at risk - you don't have to be a journalist, activist or politician, to become a target. Whatever you say today, could be reason for your tomorrow's execution.

So if your "thread model" is a 5 year old, trying to "hack" your iPhone - you're safe. Maybe.

@pjotrp we surely will! Guix has been treating us very well! :)

@ASIC that iOS is more secure than Android is an illusion. Ask all those young people and journalists, that are now sitting in jail, or have been tortured because their iPhone 'betrayed' them. The danger is, that people / journalists actually believe that iOS is more secure. Your phone, any phone, is an open book.

@aral @noorul

@horia I found you on Matrix! Nice! Haven't used this one in a while.

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